Look, I’m going to be straight with you here — I really want to like the upcoming Justice League movie, but I can’t help but be super skeptical about it. So with yet another trailer dropping this last weekend, all I could say was “huh.” I mean, don’t get me wrong, I am totally seeing this movie in theaters. Wonder Woman build enough goodwill for the DCEU for me to give it another shot.
But I’m not bouncing around in my seat or anything.
The latest trailer seems to focus on the long shadow cast by Superman’s passing in Batman v. Superman, which falls in line with the rest of the marketing. I do hope Ben Affleck sticks around for more movies after this one, because he’s really well cast as the Dark Knight. I just want to see him play the part with some better material to work with. I guess we’ll see how this movie goes?
On this episode we discuss a couple of notable exits — Colin Trevorrow getting canned from Star Wars Episode IX and Ed Skrein quitting the Hellboy film amidst whitewashing concerns. On a similar theme, Syfy has cancelled Blood Drive and Dark Matter, and the BBC has decided to not renew Doctor Who spinoff Class. We also tackle Joss Whedon getting a screenwriting credit on Justice League, and two people were injured when chairs were thrown from a balcony at Dragon Con. We start by touching on the recent losses of Len Wein and Jerry Pournelle.
Gen’s on vacation, so it’s just Trae and Nick — but hey, video is working again!
Even though the studio has tried to downplay it, the reshoots of Justice League must have made some significant alterations to the film. The latest sign of this is that Joss Whedon will now receive a screenwriting credit for the film alongside original writer Chris Terrio.
Whedon, of course, was brought on board when the film’s original director Zack Snyder had to step down due to some rather tragic personal stuff. Whedon had already been brought on board to take a look at the script, and was the natural replacement. Frankly, Snyder’s previous entries in the DCEU have had a tone problem, and Whedon (being one of the architects of the early MCU) is probably one of the few people working in Hollywood who has a chance of righting the ship.
I mean, you probably shouldn’t get into a romantic relationship with the guy, but his writing and directing are solid.
Obviously the overall plot will be relatively the same as Terrio and Snyder are still sharing the “story by” credit, but Whedon’s contributions must be fairly sizable at this point. Of course, this whole thing may end up a tonal mess — but at least they’re trying?
So there’s a Justice League trailer we didn’t post. So we’re posting it now. Because that’s a thing you do when you run a blog which tries to post every trailer they can. This is my life now. There really isn’t any going back I don’t think. What kind of monster have I become.
So… uh… trailer?
The things goes really far to remind you that Superman is totally a thing, even if the version of the Man of Steel they describe never really showed up in Man of Steel. I mean, they’re talking like he’s comic book Superman — but that’s not the broodfest, angry alien we’ve seen in the DCEU. But hey, Wonder Woman is there. We all like Wonder Woman.
Justice League hits theaters November 17, 2017, even if they don’t finish CGI removing Henry Cavill’s mustache until November 16th.
The “sadness” in the DC Carnival of Sadness is normally the kind of sadness that brings about “Nerd Rage.” It’s the kind of thing that makes us disappointed in how iconic characters and fans of those characters are treated.
This is not one of those entries. Director Zack Snyder and his wife, producer Deborah Snyder, are stepping away from the Justice League film following the suicide of their daughter Autmn back in March. The Snyders tried their best to not make this public and had hoped to return to the film after some time to grieve. Understandably their whole family is still coping though, so (with Warner Brothers’ blessing) they are stepping away and leaving the film in the hands of Joss Whedon.
This story is overwhelming honestly. Firstly, I’ve probably been one of the harshest critics of Zack Snyder in more outlets than I care to list right now, but I would never wish this heartache upon him, or any parent. My heart goes out to both Zack and Deborah Snyder right now.
The news of Joss Whedon seems very strange to me. Keep in mind, the movie is in post-production. At this point, while there’s still room to maybe add a scene or do some re-shoots, the tone, story and characters are all pretty much set in stone. It seems like such an odd move to bring in such a big name to direct what is essentially a wrap-up job. Especially to choose a director with a distinct style that doesn’t exactly match the one Snyder is known for. This is just really weird news — weird and very sad news.
Justice League is still set to open in November, so right now all we can do is wait.
On this episode of the Nerd & Tie podcast we mourn the passing of Bernie Wrightson, ponder the new Justice League trailer, discuss The Flash‘s villain plans for Season Four, rejoice in the pending return of iZombie, have a good think about the Doctor Who series ten trailer, talk a bit about Iron Fist, continue to monitor the developing MST3K situation, and remind you that New York Comic Con is only offering day passes this year.
We went audio only episode, and do you think we sound different? I’m not so sure…
So the new trailer for Justice League came out this weekend, and I’ll be the first to admit it looks pretty good. But here’s the thing, this is a film directed by Zack Snyder, and I’ve been fooled before.
You see, Zack Snyder has one single strength as a director — making beautiful, bite sized moments. These moments look great in trailers, but more often than not, Snyder doesn’t know how to string them together into a single, coherent narrative. Sometimes you get moments that contradict each other, but make great trailer lines.
Take Batman v. Superman famous Batman line “I thought she was with you.” In the trailer it got a big laugh. Heck, it did so in the final film too — except that if you think about it in context for five minutes it makes no sense. Batman is saying that about a character he literally contacted himself and asked to be there.
She was with you, Batman. She was with you.
All of this is to say that while I think the trailer looks amazing, I’m not going to let myself get excited about this film. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice…
Current movie Batman Ben Affleck recently tweeted out a short video revealing what is easily assumed to be the DCEU version of Deathstroke. While we don’t know if this is a shot from the forthcoming Justice League film or a costume test for the currently untitled Batman solo film Affleck will direct, it was clear the Deathstroke is coming to the big screen.
And now we know who will play him.
According to The Wall Street Journal, DC Creative Officer Geoff Johns has confirmed that Joe Manganiello will be suiting up as Slade Wilson in Affleck’s Batman film.
Johns wouldn’t confirm whether or not Deathstroke would show up in Justice League, but even if he does — it would just be a cameo. We wouldn’t get a chance to really spend time with the character until the Batman film anyway.
Now Affleck is currently filming Justice League, where he continues to appear as Batman/Bruce Wayne, so the obvious implication is that the character of Deathstroke will show up in the movie. On the other hand, this could just be a costume test for the untitled Batman film Affleck is helming down the road. On the other other hand, maybe Ben Affleck is just messing with us.
Personally, my money is on “Montage of Batman fighting villains” in the beginning of the Justice League film, but that’s just a guess. Either way, it looks pretty cool.
On this episode of Nerd & Tie, the MST3K Revival has found a home on Netflix, SDCC sees the release of Justice League and Wonder Woman trailers, we finally find out who’s in Supergirl’s pod, Ghost Rider’s coming to Agents of SHIELD, Brie Larson’s been cast as Captain Marvel, the new Star Trek show has a name (and ship), and Trae and Nick went to Kitsune Kon.
And our computers barely kept themselves together… it was rough.
Note: Due to the normal server we stream to being down, we were forced to record this on a local machine… that couldn’t quite keep up. It gets a bit unsynchronized and the show goes on. And by “a bit” I mean “a lot.”