On this (audio only) episode of the Nerd & Tie podcast, we celebrate Wonder Woman‘s victory at the box office, give a spoiler-free review of Spider-Man: Homecoming, ponder HBO developing a Watchmen television show, and consider the ramifications of Phil Lord and Chris Miller getting booted from the (still untitled) Han Solo Star Wars Anthology film. Then we hit the con scene, where Titan Fan Con messed up big time, and Emerald City Comicon finally settled their “minions/volunteer” lawsuit.
This is also the first episode recorded from the new production studio, so please forgive our settling in.
So I know Spider-Man has seen a lot of reboots in the last two decades, and even though I want to complain about that, each Spider-Man: Homecoming trailer has us more and more hyped. We now have the final trailer for the film, and… well… yeah.
It looks pretty great.
This trailer again focuses on Peter pushing against the limitations Stark has put on him. I mean, when you can stop a bus with your bare hands, it’s hard to be okay with something called the “training wheels protocol.”
Spider-Man: Homecoming comes to theaters July 7th.
The death of Uncle Ben is a massively important part of Spider-Man’s origin, but when you’re literally on the third iteration of the film franchise in fifteen years, the idea of watching that heartbreaking origin story happen again is just super taxing. That’s why we were pretty damned happy when we learned that Spider-Man: Homecoming wasn’t going to be an origin story. It was clear that Uncle Ben’s death would be in Peter’s past.
But that didn’t mean we weren’t at risk of a flashback.
I mean, most Batman movies have been based around an adult Bruce Wayne, but I’ve had to watch that (poorly assembled) pearl necklace hit the ground more times than I want to count. Well, the good news is that flashback doesn’t seem to be coming. In fact, while Ben’s death will have canonically happened, the film doesn’t plan on spending much time at all even directly saying that it sounds like.
Spider-Man: Homecoming co-producer Eric Carroll told Screenrant:
I mean, we’re implying he’s dead. We have not at all, again, gone into trying to change his origin story as far as I have been envisioning it. But we, just again, we thought that to keep this fun, light tone, as soon as they have to have their, like, ‘Let’s remember our dearly departed father figure’ – it derails that a little. And again, what we’re trying to tell is this sort of fun story of the kid who is doing all the wrong things for the right reasons. And once you do that, it stops becoming a sort of sun movie about a kid trying to be a kid. He’s mourning the loss of a parent.
This is… well, it’s the best damned news I’ve heard all day.
It’s been a few months since we saw the first trailer for Spider-Man: Homecoming, so unsurprisingly Sony has decided to release another one today. It’s the third version of the character from the studio in the last fifteen years, and I… just… can’t…
Okay look, I wanted to be cynical and sarcastic there, but honest to god I’m really excited for this movie.
What we can glean from this trailer, really, is that Tony Stark is going to be a large driving force in the film’s plot. This isn’t a bad thing, but it does mean that it’s the third film to heavily feature Iron Man without him in the title (and the second to not be an Avengers movie). As for the rest, you should just watch it. It’s pretty neat.
On this episode of Nerd & Tie (and its triumphant return to video), we discuss Sonequa Martin-Green’s casting as the lead in Star Trek: Discovery, David Ayer potentially directing Gotham City Sirens, discuss the amazing Rogue One, contemplate the official cancellation of the con Anime Apocalypse, and examine the trailers for Spider-Man: Homecoming and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
We also take the time to mock Michael Bay, but only because he deserves it.
Let’s be clear, I’m 36 years old. In my adult life, Spider-Man: Homecoming will be the third version of Spider-Man on the big screen. I mean, if you don’t count his appearance in Civil War, this’ll be the sixth time I’ll have seen him on the big screen. That is a lot.
Not only that, but because I’m 36, this isn’t even the Spider-Man I grew up with. I mean when I was collecting the books, my Peter Parker was a married adult (I stopped reading when that “married” part got erased). Frankly, I never read comics about high school aged Peter Parker. Whenever they get to “my” Spider-Man in his timeline, the damned franchise reboots. This is all to say that for me to get excited about yet another film adaptation of high school aged Peter Parker takes a lot.
And yet… the new trailer for Spider-Man: Homecoming has kind of done that.
I mean, what can I say? I mean, of course the movie has gone through the standard trailer filter which can make many a bad movie look good, but what we’re seeing here still looks more solid than most films. Is it yet another coming of age story? Yeah – but it looks like a good one.
And as long as there are zero flashbacks to Uncle Ben dying in the final film, I’m actually completely on board.
This episode of Nerd & Tie was recorded at Geek.kon 2016 at the Madison Marriott West in front of a live studio audience. We’re also continuing our “audio only” streak, because (frankly) it’s easier to set up and tear down at conventions.
We tackle the hard pressing issues this fortnight, like Shatner almost apologizing for Star Trek V, and director Doug Liman moving from the Fox/Marvel Gambit production to DC’s Justice League Dark movie “Dark Universe.” We also cover some lighter fare… like how the reveal that Zendaya’s Spider-Man: Homecoming character is none other than Mary Jane Watson showed us all exactly how many racists we hadn’t weeded out of our Facebook feeds yet.
The CW Seed’s new webseries also looks pretty cool, and (in a pretty weird story) Wizard World Chicago almost let a gun dealer vend.
Back in March, actress Zendaya was cast in an unknown roll in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming. Details about who she was playing were largely kept under wraps, but it was believed she was playing a potential love interest for Tom Holland’s Peter Parker. Most of us were pretty damned curious if she was playing a pre-existing character or not.
Well, we may have an answer.
According to The Wrap, Zendaya is playing none other than Mary Jane Watson. Mary Jane Watson is the most notable long term love interest for Spider-Man, and (unlike Gwen Stacy) she has a habit of not being dead… which is, y’know, a good thing. We last saw the character onscreen in Sam Raimi’s trilogy, as played Kirsten Dunst.
I thought about trying to come up with some kind of witty transition here, but couldn’t think of something that wasn’t terrible. You see, at some point I needed to bring up the fact that the character of Mary Jane Watson is traditionally portrayed as white, and Zendaya… isn’t. And while apparently no one minds that Nick Fury is played by Samuel L. Jackson, angry racists on the internet will undoubtedly complain about this too.
Well, I say “will,” but I’ve already seen it.
So we here at Nerd & Tie just want to go on record and say that we like this casting. We think Zendaya will do more than enough justice to the part of Mary Jane Watson, and we hope that she is able to brave the inevitable shit-storm from closed minded jerkwads.
Spider-Man: Homecoming is currently scheduled for a July 7, 2017 release.
The last time the Spider-Man film franchise got rebooted, a lot of us really wanted Community‘s Donald Glover to take over the role of Peter Parker. While that sadly didn’t materialize, we did get to hear Glover voice the other Spider-Man (Miles Morales) on an episode of Disney XD’s Ultimate Spider-Man a few years later.
Glover’s orbit of the franchise seems to be continuing though, because while he won’t be slinging any webs, it’s being reported now that Glover has been cast in Spider-Man: Homecoming.
No word yet on who Glover will be playing, but he’s frankly a talented enough actor to play either a hero or a villain. I’m hoping he’s someone out of left field you’d never expect, like Doc Ock or Kraven. I mean it’s unlikely, but a guy can hope.
While we’ve known who our heroes are in the forthcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming, the lingering question has been who will play the film’s villain. Michael Keaton was originally in talks, but seemed to have decided to walk away from the film at one point.
But now? Now he’s apparently back in.
THR is reporting that Keaton has been confirmed as the villain in the Sony and Marvel Studios co-production. Of course, we have no idea which villain the actor will play, but the list isn’t too long. I mean, Spider-Man has a pretty hug rogues gallery, but there are some characters we can immediately eliminate. Like, we know he won’t play Kingpin, as we’ve already met that character’s MCU counterpart. We also know he won’t be sliding into a Black Cat costume either.
Although… that would be a rather entertaining movie.
I mean, he’s probably playing The Vulture? That’s the most likely candidate? I don’t know, I’m still picturing that Black Cat thing. That should just be a thing now — someone do a mockup.