Sony originally had massive plans for an explanded Spider-Man based film franchise, but that all seemed to have evaporated with the failure of The Amazing Spider-Man 2. While the studio is relaunching the franchise with Spider-Man: Homecoming, it was assumed (with that film’s integration with Marvel Studio’s MCU) that we wouldn’t see anything outside the mainline films for the series.
Well, we were apparently wrong.
Out of the blue, yesterday Sony announced that it was making a Venom movie with a release date of October 5, 2018. While there were initially rumors that Alex Kurtzman would direct, the studio has since clarified that no director is currently attached to the project. It has been confirmed that Scott Rosenberg and Jeff Pinkner are writing the script for the film though.
We know pretty much nothing else about the project, and which version of the character will be in the movie or if it will tie into the MCU are questions that are still up in the air. That October 5th 2018 release date is date DC’s Aquaman recently abandoned, and is just a couple short months before the (still untitled) animated Miles Morales Spider-Man film comes out (which Aquaman currently shares a release date with).
Frankly, this is just a lot of Spider-Man stuff. I mean, with Homecoming later this year, and its sequel greenlit for a 2019 release, this means we’re getting four Spider-Man related films in three years. This could be, quite frankly, Spider-Man overload.
On this episode of Nerd & Tie (and its triumphant return to video), we discuss Sonequa Martin-Green’s casting as the lead in Star Trek: Discovery, David Ayer potentially directing Gotham City Sirens, discuss the amazing Rogue One, contemplate the official cancellation of the con Anime Apocalypse, and examine the trailers for Spider-Man: Homecoming and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
We also take the time to mock Michael Bay, but only because he deserves it.
Let’s be clear, I’m 36 years old. In my adult life, Spider-Man: Homecoming will be the third version of Spider-Man on the big screen. I mean, if you don’t count his appearance in Civil War, this’ll be the sixth time I’ll have seen him on the big screen. That is a lot.
Not only that, but because I’m 36, this isn’t even the Spider-Man I grew up with. I mean when I was collecting the books, my Peter Parker was a married adult (I stopped reading when that “married” part got erased). Frankly, I never read comics about high school aged Peter Parker. Whenever they get to “my” Spider-Man in his timeline, the damned franchise reboots. This is all to say that for me to get excited about yet another film adaptation of high school aged Peter Parker takes a lot.
And yet… the new trailer for Spider-Man: Homecoming has kind of done that.
I mean, what can I say? I mean, of course the movie has gone through the standard trailer filter which can make many a bad movie look good, but what we’re seeing here still looks more solid than most films. Is it yet another coming of age story? Yeah – but it looks like a good one.
And as long as there are zero flashbacks to Uncle Ben dying in the final film, I’m actually completely on board.
This episode of Nerd & Tie was recorded at Geek.kon 2016 at the Madison Marriott West in front of a live studio audience. We’re also continuing our “audio only” streak, because (frankly) it’s easier to set up and tear down at conventions.
We tackle the hard pressing issues this fortnight, like Shatner almost apologizing for Star Trek V, and director Doug Liman moving from the Fox/Marvel Gambit production to DC’s Justice League Dark movie “Dark Universe.” We also cover some lighter fare… like how the reveal that Zendaya’s Spider-Man: Homecoming character is none other than Mary Jane Watson showed us all exactly how many racists we hadn’t weeded out of our Facebook feeds yet.
The CW Seed’s new webseries also looks pretty cool, and (in a pretty weird story) Wizard World Chicago almost let a gun dealer vend.
Back in March, actress Zendaya was cast in an unknown roll in the upcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming. Details about who she was playing were largely kept under wraps, but it was believed she was playing a potential love interest for Tom Holland’s Peter Parker. Most of us were pretty damned curious if she was playing a pre-existing character or not.
Well, we may have an answer.
According to The Wrap, Zendaya is playing none other than Mary Jane Watson. Mary Jane Watson is the most notable long term love interest for Spider-Man, and (unlike Gwen Stacy) she has a habit of not being dead… which is, y’know, a good thing. We last saw the character onscreen in Sam Raimi’s trilogy, as played Kirsten Dunst.
I thought about trying to come up with some kind of witty transition here, but couldn’t think of something that wasn’t terrible. You see, at some point I needed to bring up the fact that the character of Mary Jane Watson is traditionally portrayed as white, and Zendaya… isn’t. And while apparently no one minds that Nick Fury is played by Samuel L. Jackson, angry racists on the internet will undoubtedly complain about this too.
Well, I say “will,” but I’ve already seen it.
So we here at Nerd & Tie just want to go on record and say that we like this casting. We think Zendaya will do more than enough justice to the part of Mary Jane Watson, and we hope that she is able to brave the inevitable shit-storm from closed minded jerkwads.
Spider-Man: Homecoming is currently scheduled for a July 7, 2017 release.
The last time the Spider-Man film franchise got rebooted, a lot of us really wanted Community‘s Donald Glover to take over the role of Peter Parker. While that sadly didn’t materialize, we did get to hear Glover voice the other Spider-Man (Miles Morales) on an episode of Disney XD’s Ultimate Spider-Man a few years later.
Glover’s orbit of the franchise seems to be continuing though, because while he won’t be slinging any webs, it’s being reported now that Glover has been cast in Spider-Man: Homecoming.
No word yet on who Glover will be playing, but he’s frankly a talented enough actor to play either a hero or a villain. I’m hoping he’s someone out of left field you’d never expect, like Doc Ock or Kraven. I mean it’s unlikely, but a guy can hope.
While we’ve known who our heroes are in the forthcoming Spider-Man: Homecoming, the lingering question has been who will play the film’s villain. Michael Keaton was originally in talks, but seemed to have decided to walk away from the film at one point.
But now? Now he’s apparently back in.
THR is reporting that Keaton has been confirmed as the villain in the Sony and Marvel Studios co-production. Of course, we have no idea which villain the actor will play, but the list isn’t too long. I mean, Spider-Man has a pretty hug rogues gallery, but there are some characters we can immediately eliminate. Like, we know he won’t play Kingpin, as we’ve already met that character’s MCU counterpart. We also know he won’t be sliding into a Black Cat costume either.
Although… that would be a rather entertaining movie.
I mean, he’s probably playing The Vulture? That’s the most likely candidate? I don’t know, I’m still picturing that Black Cat thing. That should just be a thing now — someone do a mockup.
Recorded before a live audience at the lovely Chula Vista Resort in the Wisconsin Dells, on this live episode of Nerd & Tie we discuss the first Rogue One: A Star Wars Story trailer, let Nick fanboy about the Godzilla Resurgence trailer, continue to look closely at the ever living clusterf**k that is Wine Country Comic Con, roll our eyes at YourMiniCon’s mounting issues, and contemplate Spider-Man: Homecoming‘s title.
Oh, and we talk directly to some of you while you’re in the room — and try to start a rumor that Sean Corse of Famicom Dojo got mauled by a gazelle.
Live shows are fun like that. No Brand Con shows especially.
Ever since it was announced that Spider-Man was joining the MCU a solo Spider-Man movie has been on the books for July of 2017. The problem we’ve always had talking about this film though is that we had no idea what to call it. I mean, seriously — “Untitled Sony Produced Marvel Cinematic Universe Spider-Man Film” gets a little tiring after a while.
Well “dumb, unrealistically long title we’ve never actually used to refer to the movie before now” be damned! At Cinema Con in Las Vegas last night Marvel and Sony have finally gave us one: Spider-Man: Homecoming.
It’s not exactly the best title, but after my initial disappointment I had to ask myself “what else would they call the movie?” I mean, the two easiest titles (Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man) are off the table, and perhaps they want to distance themselves from the Andrew Garfield movies more by not going with The [Adjective] Spider-Man options that remain (Spectacular and I guess Superior).
So, in the understanding that they want to make it clear that this is a new version of the character, Spider-Man: Homecoming is pretty much as good as we’re going to get… and I for one can live with it. I mean, honestly, we’re all just going to call it “Spider-Man” in conversation anyway.
Spider-Man: Homecoming is currently scheduled to be released July 7, 2017.
On this fortnight’s installment of the podcast, we discuss the new Deadpool trailer, how we’re grateful that we won’t have to watch Uncle Ben die in the next Spider-Man movie, the bizarreness of a post-Apocalyptic adaptation of Little Women (you read that right), how The Dark Tower film(s) seem finally on track, Galacticon’s bizarre staff drama, Anime California’s inappropriate actions towards Summoner’s Cafe, and how we’re all super happy to be attending Geek.kon!
It’ll be fun. We have some big news for you there.