On this episode of Nerd & Tie we deal with the ongoing move of our production studio, mourn the passing of Adam West, go through the highlights of E3, discuss the changes coming to Pokemon Go, review the confusing situation surrounding the Venom movie (and how it MIGHT still be MCU adjacent), and consider Wizard World’s money problems.
There are a few technical difficulties in the video too, but at least the audio version is largely clean?
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One of the stranger things that’s been happening is that Sony has been moving forward with the “Sony Marvel Universe” films, based around Spider-Man characters… minus Spider-Man. I mean, envisioning a Venom movie without Spider-Man is pretty strange, right? Well, the two franchises (which also includes the Black Cat and Silver Sable movie Silver and Black) aren’t going to be so far apart apparently.
In an interview with Marvel’s Kevin Feige and Sony’s Amy Pascal, Pascal seemed to confirm that Tom Holland’s Spider-Man could show up in the spin-off movies still.
[BREAKING NEWS] Amy Pascal confirm Black Cat and Vanom movie will pass in the same universe of "Spider-Man: Homecoming pic.twitter.com/qfAKOulqwE
This is, of course, completely contrary to Feige’s previous statements where he said the Venom movie wouldn’t be in the MCU. Of course, since Feige seemed a little surprised in the interview, maybe this was news to him too.
On this, the one hundredth episode of Nerd & Tie, our heroes give our review of DC’s Wonder Woman movie, discuss how said film was banned in Lebanon, celebrate 40 years of Star Wars, and continued to get confused by the ongoing progress on Sony’s Venom movie. Then we take on the con scene, where ColossalCon forced Colossus Con to rebrand, and Phoenix Comicon narrowly avoided tragedy.
No one was expecting it when Sony announced it’s Venom movie, so it makes sense that no one was expecting who will end up starring in it. Its been announced that none other than Tom Hardy will be playing Eddie Brock in the upcoming film.
Venom will be an R-rated film meant to launch a shared universe based around Spider-Man characters (that will somehow not feature Spider-Man). Separate from Marvel’s Cinematic Universe, where the current film Spider-Man resides, it’s expected to be darker — and by all accounts confusing as hell.
Honestly, Hardy is a phenomenal actor, but even his casting isn’t quite enough to get me excited about this project. Maybe I’m wrong — maybe this will end up being phenomenal. With Sony’s current track record though, I’m not giving them good odds.
Just over a week ago Sony announced, rather out of the blue, that they were going to release a Venom movie (based off of the Spider-Man villain/anti-hero) in the fall of 2018. The studio apparently was returning to their plans to create a massive shared universe based off of various Spider-Man characters. There were a lot of questions though, including whether or not these new films (which also includes a Silver Sable and Black Cat film) would be a part of the MCU like the current Spider-Man movies.
Well, it seems like the answer to that is probably not.
Collider is reporting that the Venom film will not be connected to Tom Holland’s iteration of Spider-Man or the larger MCU, which of course makes me want to ask a heck of a lot of questions as to how they’ll modify a character whose backstory is so reliant on the web crawler. The other large piece of news in that article is that Sony is apparently looking to make Venom rated R.
I’m of two minds about that.
On the one hand, Venom is one of the few characters who I think would merit a hard R if they stick to the source material. That said, I’m not confident Sony knows why Fox’s Logan and Deadpool worked. Frankly, the idea of building a Spider-verse sans Spider-Man seems like a terrible idea.
Sony originally had massive plans for an explanded Spider-Man based film franchise, but that all seemed to have evaporated with the failure of The Amazing Spider-Man 2. While the studio is relaunching the franchise with Spider-Man: Homecoming, it was assumed (with that film’s integration with Marvel Studio’s MCU) that we wouldn’t see anything outside the mainline films for the series.
Well, we were apparently wrong.
Out of the blue, yesterday Sony announced that it was making a Venom movie with a release date of October 5, 2018. While there were initially rumors that Alex Kurtzman would direct, the studio has since clarified that no director is currently attached to the project. It has been confirmed that Scott Rosenberg and Jeff Pinkner are writing the script for the film though.
We know pretty much nothing else about the project, and which version of the character will be in the movie or if it will tie into the MCU are questions that are still up in the air. That October 5th 2018 release date is date DC’s Aquaman recently abandoned, and is just a couple short months before the (still untitled) animated Miles Morales Spider-Man film comes out (which Aquaman currently shares a release date with).
Frankly, this is just a lot of Spider-Man stuff. I mean, with Homecoming later this year, and its sequel greenlit for a 2019 release, this means we’re getting four Spider-Man related films in three years. This could be, quite frankly, Spider-Man overload.
So somehow, in the Venom and Venom-related symbiote packed Marvel comics of the 90s, we never actually found out what planet the Venom symbiote came from. Sure, Peter Parker picked it up on a planet during Secret Wars (try saying that ten times fast), and we’ve seen a planet taken over by symbiotes… but we’ve never seen their homeworld.
As current-Venom Flash Thompson has been hanging out with the Guardians of the Galaxy, after finding out we’d never seen the home planet of the symbiote writer Brian Michael Bendis decided that this was exactly where they needed to go.
And it all goes down in issue #21. I’m personally excited, but I also read a lot of Spider-man books in the 90s.