This episode of Nerd & Tie was recorded at Geek.kon 2016 at the Madison Marriott West in front of a live studio audience. We’re also continuing our “audio only” streak, because (frankly) it’s easier to set up and tear down at conventions.
We tackle the hard pressing issues this fortnight, like Shatner almost apologizing for Star Trek V, and director Doug Liman moving from the Fox/Marvel Gambit production to DC’s Justice League Dark movie “Dark Universe.” We also cover some lighter fare… like how the reveal that Zendaya’s Spider-Man: Homecoming character is none other than Mary Jane Watson showed us all exactly how many racists we hadn’t weeded out of our Facebook feeds yet.
The CW Seed’s new webseries also looks pretty cool, and (in a pretty weird story) Wizard World Chicago almost let a gun dealer vend.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier is generally agreed to be the worst Star Trek film ever made. It’s poorly plotted, full of janky special effects (due to every good effects house being committed to other projects the year it was made) and just overall a mediocre movie. But it’s also a couple decades old, so you may be wondering why the heck we’re bringing it up.
You see William Shatner, who directed The Final Frontier, has been doing the rounds promoting a new project, and while speaking with EW he offered an almost-apology for it. Specifically Shatner said:
I got the chance to direct a several-million-dollar movie, Star Trek V, and I did not get the help I needed in allocating my budget, so when it came to shooting the ending — needing a good villain and lots of computer graphics — I had run out of money. Sorry about that. [Laughs.] I had to use footage that I had already shot — and spit on it a lot. I wanted to give [the audience] earth-breaking granite monsters spewing rocks and fire. Instead, I had a few pebbles in my hand that I threw at the camera.
What I get from this is that Shatner has no idea why people didn’t like the movie. I mean, he’s still dwelling on the weird rock monster thing that (thankfully) got cut, and not the fact that it was a movie where the Enterprise got hijacked and flown to the (retconned as not the center) “center” of the Galaxy to meet God.
And that end confrontation Shatner wishes was different? It’s one of the two good things that came out of the movie period. I mean, who doesn’t love the line “What does God need with a Starship?”
If you’re curious what the second good thing is, it’s this:
Now that J.J. Abrams isn’t involved in the new Star Trek films, we really need to come up with a new shorthand for the “Alternate Reality” Star Trek movies. Anywho, according to Bad Ass Digest, a cameo has been written into the third no-longer-Abramsverse Star Trek film’s script for William Shatner (if he is willing to appear in the film).
If Shatner chooses to accept an offer to appear, the scene would apparently be integral to the plot — which makes we wonder what they’ll do if he says no.
Who are we kidding, unless there was some unknown health problem, Shatner would never say no.
Personally, while I love Shatner, it just sort of seems weird. While Prime Universe Spock was integral in the 2009 Star Trek (and it made sense for him to appear in into Darkness), the continued reliance on the old cast does not bode well for the new reality.